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Oh dear, I seemed to have drank some petrol....

Post by Andy Sayle on Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:24 pm

and decided that maybe IC engines are not manifestations of the devil himself!

I'm thinking that perhaps it is time for me to try a model with a dirty gert big IC motor in it. I'm thinking 50cc size, possibly bigger (I do have a van to cart these things around in! Very Happy ) So, what's good, what's bad in terms if IC engines? I don't have a huge amount of cash to spend, mainly because of a certain other "build" that is going on in our house at present, but I don't want to buy rubbish that is a pain to work with.

The other thing I need to get, obviously, is an airframe. Again, cheap but good quality is the name of the game. And definately not painted red. Or blue. Green is good, as is black. Or yellow. But not red. Or blue. Something a slighty different to the Extrukhoyaks out there would be nice too.

Over to you knowledgable chaps then, recommend me some kit!

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Post by Sam Thomas on Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:31 pm

Something NOT made from cheese!
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Post by Robert Piechulski on Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:01 am

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Re: Oh dear, I seemed to have drank some petrol....

Post by Guest on Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:24 am

I've got something big and green (oh er missus!) if you would like to see it Shocked 88'' MX2 50cc from http://globalrc.co.uk/index.html
You could check out the construction etc. If you are going the new route for everything budget on £850-£950 total approx, reduced by how much RC gear you have already. To keep price down engine wise its a DLE 55 or JC 51 preferably purchased as a package with the airframe from the above or
http://www.vanderbuiltmodels.co.uk/index.asp
http://www.peakmodel.com/
http://www.ytinternational.co.uk/home.htm (50cc warbird???? more money)
Just a few suggestions.

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Post by Mark Barnes on Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:38 pm

How about somthing not aimed at airobatics but more than capable, somthing like the topgun Taylorcraft(same as Hanger 9 but 1/2 the price) on a DLE 30 nice as a tug, mild airobatics or a steady curcit flier

Not sure if im trying to convince you or me? `tiss red mind



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Re: Oh dear, I seemed to have drank some petrol....

Post by Andy Sayle on Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:26 pm

Ugh, red.... Chicks don't dig red planes, they dig Black, green and yellow planes. Oh, and dashes of silver here and there help their knickers fall off, so I'm told.....

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Post by Tim on Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:00 pm

Tut tut, and you a married man and soon to be Father.

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Get a moth!!!

Post by Brian Colclough on Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:06 pm

This should get them off for you pirat

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Not enough silver??

Post by Brian Colclough on Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:09 pm

Not enough silver on this heli Suspect


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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:11 pm

The ground crew looks a little phased lol!

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Post by Brian Colclough on Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:14 pm

I'd like to lift her skirt with my ch---er Wink

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:03 pm

Thought you only used that for cutting logs Very Happy

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:04 pm

Anyway mine is bigger than yours

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Post by Andy Sayle on Sat May 01, 2010 8:21 am

I'm saving up for a chopper as big as Daves's....

After much dredging of the interweb, Im still no closer to deciding anything! I think a 50cc jobby is going to be the best in terms of budget, (unless a something cheap and bigger turns up!) but whether to go cheap Chinese kit, or expensive composite arf....

Hmmmm.....

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Post by Andy Sayle on Sun May 02, 2010 7:29 pm

Right, almost decided on the airframe, just need to sort out an engine and stuff now. So, I need an engine of 50cc capacity or so. Something that is nice and reliable, but doesn't break the bank. I'm thinking DLE55 for now, they seem to be had for around £220 or so at the cheaper end of things...

Any others that are worth considering?

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Post by Guest on Sun May 02, 2010 7:44 pm

In the £200 - £300 range the standard would be the DLE55 with the JC51 as second choice, here http://globalrc.co.uk/jc%20engine.html and here http://www.gashanger.com/new_page_1.htm

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Post by Andy Sayle on Sun May 02, 2010 8:28 pm

Cheers Allan.

From what I can tell, the two engines are remarkably similar. I guess there is only so much you can do with a 50cc engine though Smile

One thing I was wondering, is why they haven't gone "fuel injected" yet, a bit like all the scooter motors out there now.....

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Post by Sam Thomas on Sun May 02, 2010 8:34 pm

WHAT IS THE AIRFRAME?!?!
IS IT AN ULTIMATE?!?!
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Post by Guest on Sun May 02, 2010 8:41 pm

[b]COST Walbro/Tilotson carbs have a pump and regulator. are cheap. IMHO the o/p, sophistication of design, rpm etc dosn't require that degree of fuel management and cost. Then there's the added weight. Best to stick to the 'KISS' principle.

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Post by Guest on Sun May 02, 2010 9:13 pm

So, what airframes are you considering?????????

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Post by Andy Sayle on Mon May 03, 2010 9:11 am

It's a toss up between three at the moment.

1. Peak Models Yak 55m - cheap option, but cracking value if it is anything like Brians Edge 540 from the same stable.
2. Comp Arf Yak 55SP 2.1m (or the Extra 300 2.1m) - because you only live once, and I do like a bit of composite Smile
3. Comp Arf Extra 300L 2.3m - just to see what sort of beating I get from SWMBO if (when?!) it gets delivered!

I'm thinking that the sensible choice will be the first, the crazy choice would be the third, but I really like the middle option as a compromise....

That said, going with option 1, would leave plenty of funds for another toy......

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Post by Mark Barnes on Mon May 03, 2010 9:16 am

go with option 1 and a DLE55 with can, and when you diside you dont want it i`ll have it off you Smile

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Post by Brian Colclough on Mon May 03, 2010 9:21 am

I can't say I've ever been overly impressed by the smaller composites, I get interested once they get up to the 2.6 Metre size and 100cc engine but you're really looking at an inflationary budget then Suspect

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Post by Sam Thomas on Mon May 03, 2010 9:24 am

Oh so no ultimate bipes then Sad
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Post by Andy Sayle on Mon May 03, 2010 9:27 am

Nah, Biplanes look a bit ungainly to me....

You are not the first person I have heard that from Brian, that's part of the reason why I was considering the 2.3m extra from Camp ORF. it's still small enough to not cost a fortune to fit out, but just that bit bigger than the 2m class ones. Plus it shoudl still go well on the 55cc engine. The only downside, is the price. €799 for the plain one, plus abouther €125 shipping!!

The Peak models one is looking like the only real option, the more I thinkabout. And with the savings I make, I can buy a small tractor...

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