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2018-07-07, 21:07 by Gary M Jones

I was at the field today between 14:00 & 15:00 all on my own , good flying too. There is a dead sheep along the fence line towards the gate from the pits, I saw the farmer so reported this to her. I hope no one had plans for a BBQ Smile .

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Post by Tim on 2009-05-07, 22:06

Forget to mention - anyone after genuine A123 LiFePO4 cells ( 2300 version ) - I have just ordered 12 from an ebay seller in HK tonight for the measly sum of circa £70 including P+P.
Considering these things are usually at least a tenner each, I am pretty pleased.
Of course, they have yet to arrive, so I may be premature in my pleasure. Shocked
Thyey are destined for my Hangar 9 Camel - I will be making them up into a "double ring" and fitting with-in the large radial cowl instead of the 1.5lb of lead siuggested in the manual!
Thats the plan anyway Rolling Eyes

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Post by Andy Sayle on 2009-05-10, 13:25

Hey Tim.

Does the Ebay seller you got them from have any more? Smile I may be looking for a few more of them in the near-ish future, destined for the next project Smile

I've made the ones I bought up into a couple of packs. I have two 2s packs in my Jet, on receiver duty, and they seem to perform really well (without a regulator!). They quickly drop to around 6.5v or so after a charge, and then seem to hold it to within 0.3v or so, regardless of what the 7 digital servos I have on board are doing!

The other cells have been made into a 4s pack, and have been used with a little EDF delta. Nice a consistent power for about 5 minutes, followed by a drop off that is so sharp, it is like running out of fuel in an IC model! The throttle activated timer is gettinga right hammering on my models now!

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Post by Tim on 2009-05-10, 13:58

Claims to have plenty...and I received notification that the order has been shiupped within a few hours of buying. Pity we didnt get together on this earlier - we could have saved on shipping. Yes the M1s do have a rather sudden "knee" in the discharge curve dont they!
Here's the link mate.
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Post by Tim on 2009-05-10, 14:06

Hmmm, seems I havent quite mastered the linking procedure on this here forum Embarassed
Incidentally, do you have, or know a man who does the facility to weld the connections on these cells? They dont have tabs, and although I have managed to solder reasonably well the other ones I have used in the past with a BIG hammerhead 100Watt iron, I would feel happier if they were welded - I did flirt with the idea of building a big capacitor discharge resistance welder, but never got around to it.

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Post by Andy Sayle on 2009-05-10, 14:43

I don't unfortunately, sorry Tim. On the packs I made, I soldered them without too much trouble. I used my normal 50Watt temp controlled Iron, with the temperature dialled up to 390°C (as hot as it would go). I used a fairly chunky bit on the end too.

It would be a bit better to get them with welded tabs, or construct the pack by welding the cells together, but you would need to use a fair number of weld points to get the same sort of junction resistance as a soldered connections.

Perhaps a word with one of the battery pack manufacturers might see if they have access to this sort of equipment?

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PS. I got the link anyway Smile
PPS. do you have any plans/info for building a Cap discharge welding machine?

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Post by Tim on 2009-05-10, 15:15

A friend on another forum was planning on doing this one here. I must contact him later and see how he got on, it was whil back now.
http://www.philpem.me.uk/elec/welder/

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Post by Tim on 2009-05-15, 09:53

First the good news.
Ordered May the 7th, arrived today 15th so not bad.
The bad ? -They are used cells from different batches - ex DeWalt I would guess
Will do some testing soon, for IR and capacity etc, but just beware of this if you are planning on buying some.
Still not bad I suppose for the money - assuming they all test OK Shocked

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Any results yet on cell tests??? Question

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Post by Tim on 2009-05-20, 19:54

Yeh...initial test of 5 x in series is not brilliant... they took in around 2100 mahr after running them at 16C down to 2V per cell. They are not holding voltage particualarly well under load - circa 2.6V only, also, as yet, not balanced them. They really need a few cycles on them, and a fast charge rate at around 10A b4 I can tell for sure.
I am just in the middle of making them up into a 5s2p pack and will see how that holds up, however my 80 WATT iron has just packed up ( second one in as many days ! )
Will have to revert to the gas torch and hammerhead tip. Shocked
I am away for a week or so in a coule of days, so wont have the lot done for a while.

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